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This week we have the unfathomably lovely and the amazingly knowledgeable, Dragana Drobnjak. I met Dragana in 2004 when she was playing in a band called "The Four of Us Are Dying." Since then I have only ever known her to be positive and productive. She currently plays keys in "The Grains" and is the keyboardist AND lead singer of "The Susan Atkins Diet." In 2010, She founded Lovecraft House- a DIY publishing press and record label- which very recently became an official non-profit!
Additionally, Dragana has been ceaselessly supportive of the music scene in NJ. She always played in bands, she has always booked shows, and she has always advertised for others and tried to keep things moving forward. She is a true ENTHUSIAST with real KNOWLEDGE on a variety of subjects, and is a real inspiration to me and many others. Here is just the tiniest bit of her rad story. Enjoy <3
Additionally, Dragana has been ceaselessly supportive of the music scene in NJ. She always played in bands, she has always booked shows, and she has always advertised for others and tried to keep things moving forward. She is a true ENTHUSIAST with real KNOWLEDGE on a variety of subjects, and is a real inspiration to me and many others. Here is just the tiniest bit of her rad story. Enjoy <3
What was your
musical role in the band "The four of us are dying" and then later
"Come wander with me?"
I
played bells (xylophone) and keys in both bands.
Though they
were basically the same band, were there any lineup changes?
"The Four of Us are Dying”
was a seven-piece band that due to its size struggled to organize practice
after graduation from high school. “Come Wander With Me” became the bare bones
version of the previous band, with four members instead of seven.
Where do those
band names originate?
We
were all huge fans of The Twilight Zone,
and both of the bands’ names were titles of the series’ episodes.
Was keyboard your first instrument?
I
didn’t play any music at all prior to playing in “The Four of Us are Dying”, I didn’t
know any theory and couldn’t play by ear. Practicing and playing shows made me extremely anxious, but somehow I carried
through. I was exposed to music from an early age though; my cousin would often
make up songs for me on his guitar, so this enthrallment with music was
ever-present.
How did you
learn to play?
The
learning process was very slow and still continues today. Initially I just
learned how to play a few chords, which is basically all you need to start. Well
that and an attitude that doesn’t allow for self-defeatism. I think the
majority of songs that the Ramones wrote were under five chords, but they
inspired many kids to pick up instruments and start making noise.
Did you ever
take lessons?
Not really, although
I did try taking guitar lessons once… The experience bummed me out so much that
I didn’t pick up the guitar for a few years. He should have showed me how to
play powerchords instead of dulling the moments by going through a dreary
beginner guitar instruction booklet.
Who are some musicians you look up to now and some bands that influenced how and why you play music?
Even
though I have a few favorite bands that have made a name for themselves in the
punk scene, some of my most influential musicians and bands have stemmed from the
local New Jersey scene. One of the bands that I was most impressed with during my
early show-going years was “Hunchback”, a band that you, Miranda, played drums
in. Through the community that the band surrounded itself with I was able to
connect with some truly amazing individuals that have inspired me to keep
pursuing music and art. Most of those individuals recognized the importance of
developing underground and DIY philosophies unhindered by motivations for
profit – this is why the New Brunswick basement scene always felt like home to
me. The underground scene continues to thrive, and I’m happy to say that many
of my current favorite bands (like brick mower, 3Jane and Black Wine) are a
part of it.
What were some
of your first favorite bands?
My first favorite bands included former-Yugoslavian acts like “Tajči” (she was the Yugoslavian equivalent of
Madonna), folk sensation “Lepa Brena”, yu-rockers “Bajaga i Instruktori” and punk
bands like “Električni Orgazam” and “Babe”. I spent many summers in a swing at
my grandma Zora’s farmhouse belting out Yugoslavian radio hits.
Talk about playing keyboards in "The Grains" and how your playing has evolved over the years.
Hanging
out with the other members of The Grains (Mike Regrets, Blake Larsen, Andrew Edelhauser
and Scott Kenny) made me truly appreciate the roots of American rock’n’roll and
punk music. I fell in love with Detroit Blues, John Lee Hooker, MC5 and Hank
Williams (‘Ramblin' Man’ is one of my favorite songs), among others. My playing
evolved through practice and learning things like the 12-bar blues, which Mike
Regrets kindly taught me.
Talk about "The Susan Atkins Diet" and about being a lead singer. What made you want to start this band?
Talk about "The Susan Atkins Diet" and about being a lead singer. What made you want to start this band?
The
conversation about starting The Susan Atkins Diet was initiated during a
fundraiser show for New Brunswick’s Clit Fest at which Tacocat played. I was at
the show with my friend Becky where we ran into Dan whom we knew from “The
Jurks”, a band he used to play guitar for. We got to talking and decided to
start a riot girl band, since that was something we all always wanted to do. Soon
thereafter Rachel Chernoff joined us on drums. Initially I didn’t plan on
singing in the band considering I have never sung for one before, but I wanted
to do something else besides just playing the keys. I think that it takes a lot
of guts to be able to sing in front of people, so the experience was an
exercise in confidence for me.
Were there
specific themes you wanted address as a singer?
Dan
and I both really wanted to address some issues that we thought were important.
The band collectively considers itself as an anarchist surf/riot girl
band. Most of our songs are about sexism
(or stereotypes associated with gender), racism, classism, political as well as
law-enforcement abuse and corruption. We think it’s important to engage in
dialogue about these issues, and one way of expressing ideas is through lyrics.
NON MUSIC RELATED
What draws you to horror and supernatural themes in media?
Horror
and supernatural themes often, but not always, draw from real fears, issues and
anxieties. They are often reflections of an individual’s understandings of
themselves, the society and its expectations, the culture and various
establishments found therein. Some of the best analysis of issues like sexism
and consumerism has been portrayed in horror films. We fear the unknown because
we have a hard time fathoming that more exists beyond the visible and known. To
quote H. P. Lovecraft, "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is
fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown."
Who are some
of your favorite authors and directors etc?
Some
of my favorite authors include Edgar Allan Poe, Aaron Cometbus, John Steinbeck,
Ray Bradbury, H. P. Lovecraft, George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and current authors
like Peter Bagge (who is a comic book guy) and Michael Chabon. Wostok, a great
Serbian cartoonist, recently alerted me to poetry of Vasko Popa and certain
Russian avant-garde poets like Nikolay Zabolotsky. I also really love reading
anything that Mike Regrets, Craig Fu Yong (The Degenerics, Plastic Cross), Mike
Hunchback (Freedom School Records), and Hannah Neurotica (Ax Wound zine) write.
My
favorite directors include George Romero, Lisa Hammer, Dušan Makavejev, Sam
Raimi, Samuel Fuller, Roger Corman, Frank Henenlotter, Wong Kar-Wai, Alex Cox,
Penelope Spheeris, the Coen brothers, David Lynch, the Farrelly brothers, and
so on... These lists are by no means exhaustive.
I
also want to mention that I’m a big fan of art depicting aloneness, or artists
whose work portrays “lonely voyeurism.” Edward Hopper, Andrew Wyeth and Georgia
O’Keeffe are some that are able to capture these reflective moments.
Do they have an influence on your
music/writing/art?
Of
course! Their interpretations help expand my own understanding of the world
that we live in. I think that I would be less understanding and more biased if
I solely drew conclusions based on my experience alone.
Talk about "Lovecraft House" and your fanzine "Night of the Fandom."
Talk about "Lovecraft House" and your fanzine "Night of the Fandom."
DIY
publishing is essential considering the world that we live in. Major publishing
houses’ publications are driven by motives for profit and profit is usually
made by appeals to a more mainstream public. This is something that underground
art, music and culture aren’t often a part of. In my opinion it is regressive
to attempt to appeal to any one’s taste in particular, and that is why small
scale publishing is vital.
The other important thing to consider is documentation. Small scale publishing insures that voices not often heard are recorded. Night of the Fandom is an attempt to encapsulate the work of certain artists and writers that have dedicated their lives to the craft. Lovecraft House itself is named after the pursuit of this passion.
How did they
originate and how are they evolving?
Night of the Fandom was formed as an attempt for reflection of culture and community that I was a fan of. Through the zine I was able to make contact with artists and authors from different parts of the world, and I began to understand that the driving philosophies for DIY and underground based work were incredibly similar.
Lovecraft
House is currently in the process of collecting material for a book anthology
of weird/underground/horror/sci-fi art and comics. This book will be published
in late spring 2013 with funds raised over Kickstarter (so please keep an eye out
for that!). I am also translating a Serbian comic whose issues will initially
be released as zines, and later published as a book. There is also a public
access TV show in the works, so please stay tuned!
Where were you born and where have you lived? How old were you when you moved to the states?
I
was born in former Yugoslavia, and I lived in Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. I was
thirteen when I moved to America and I lived in different states before calling
New Jersey home.
What was your
childhood like and how has that affected you today?
I
was incredibly independent in my early childhood due to pre-war culture and
ease of life in former Yugoslavia. I would spend summers away from parents and
living with my grandmas, one of which lived in a city, the other in the
country. Both of them lived alone, grew huge gardens that fed many households,
tended to orchards, knitted clothes, and lived what we consider complete DIY
lifestyles. They were also born in hardship following World War I, survived
nightmares of World War II and then again of the Yugoslav Wars in 1990s. I
believe that my grandmas greatly affected the way that I work and think about
life.
You honor the idea of cultivating a community above most other things it seems. Why is community important to you and what steps were taken to achieve your goals?
You honor the idea of cultivating a community above most other things it seems. Why is community important to you and what steps were taken to achieve your goals?
During
the Yugoslav Wars, my family was split and we all eventually became refugees.
My family lost its home and due to unwarranted hatred we were not able to
settle in any of the newly formed Yugoslav states. I spent years trying to
recreate a sense of belonging and community, as well as a place to call home. I
came to an understand that a community can be formed due to a mutual desire for
expression, like the scene that you and I both belong to. I think that most of
the work that I do is out of appreciation of this community’s passion and
labor. However as I recently came to understand, communities do not necessarily
have to exist in physical places.
What are your parents like?
What are your parents like?
My
parents are extremely hardworking. It is only under very rare occasions that my
father does not have a project. He is truly a jack of all trades and I am
constantly impressed with the things he creates. Their lives have also been
extremely hard - my mom was 29 years old when the war started and she already
had my brother and I. They moved to this country when we were about to hit
puberty, with no knowledge of the American culture beyond the one witnessed on TV
and things shown there can be more frightening than most horror films, so you
can imagine how they felt. But they went from living in a refugee camp and
digging potato fields to being their own bosses.
Do you have any ghost stories?
I
have seen ghosts on a number of occasions, but I have never felt compelled to
talk about them. So I’m glad you ask this question. I have mostly seen ghost
cats, but they scurry out of line of sight before I have a chance to confirm
that was what I saw. I have also seen a few human ghosts dressed in late 18th
century clothing, walking alongside or crossing the road. However, these
apparitions haven’t stayed visible for long and they have never interacted with
me. Another time I was awakened by sound of the piano playing in my living
room, inside of which I later found a pink silk handkerchief. That piano was
also made in late 18th century and use to belong to a piano teacher.
Thanks so much Dragana. Heres links:
http://lovecrafthouse.weebly.com/
https://www.facebook.com/lovecrafthouse
https://www.facebook.com/thegrainsusa
https://www.facebook.com/thesusanatkinsdiet
Thanks so much Dragana. Heres links:
http://lovecrafthouse.weebly.com/
https://www.facebook.com/lovecrafthouse
https://www.facebook.com/thegrainsusa
https://www.facebook.com/thesusanatkinsdiet
Drags is definitely an inspiration and an inspiring person just to be around! Amazingly funny that the Four of Us Are Dying turned into a 4-member band not called "The Four of Us Are Dying"! Great interview!
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